You had only black and white television if you had television. CONFLICT OF THE AGES ARTICLES Web11 Then the king sent for the priest Ahimelek son of Ahitub and all the men of his family, who were the priests at Nob, and they all came to the king. King David was compelled to hand over his own people to the power of Israel's ongoing enemies. All answers are REVIEWED and MODERATED. It provides the cities of refuge where he could go serve a type of prison sentenceif it was an accidental murderuntil the high priest died. It shows you just how far things had sunk in the land. He just let the natural cycles take their course. When were threatened by a Philistine attack, Saul he disobeyed Jehovah by offering a sacrifice instead of waiting for Samuel to do it. I do not know when God through Samuel stripped him of the kingdom. But, they like the dark one because he is moody, and doing things not for quite the right reasons. That would be a town in Benjamin just north of Jerusalem. This was obviously later in his life and reign. He is beyond us; it does not make any sense. King Saul would conscript them into the army, and off they would go in a bloodthirsty rage against somebody else. We have our own sins to pay for; we do not pay for theirs. In 1 Samuel 10, Saul first tries to kill David by straight up pinning him to the wall with his spear, but David dodges twice. God's correction may come a WebWhich city did Saul destroy when he found that its priests had given David's men provision? Vote Up So they thought, "Hmm. Exodus 20:4-6 You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. But Abishai the son of Zeruiah came to his aid, and struck the Philistine and killed him. Yet, because of the long time that has passed since then until now, when the Gibeonites were asked to bring it up, how many of the guilty ones had died? If you read 2Samuel 21 carefully, it seems possible that Saul and his house may have been trying to get the Gibeonites territory. But Joshua had the final decision. But, the others were Saul's grandsons. He simply folded, giving the Gibeonites everything they wanted. It is easy to read this story blithely, and to think that David righted some longstanding wrongs that had happened, and then God happily sent rain to the parched land of Israel. Joshua 9:25-27 "And now, here we are, in your hands; do with us as it seems good and right to do to us." And they went to Joshua, to the camp at Gilgal, and said to him and to the men of Israel, "We have come from a far country; now therefore, make a covenant with us. On the mammoth scene of world history this minor alliance would rank as a minute encounter. I think he was distracted by all the cares of his office of being king. But the king spared Mephibosheth the son of Jonathan, the son of Saul, because of the LORD's oath that was between them, between David and Jonathan the son of Saul. In effect, what they wanted to do was hang the bodies of Saul's family in Saul's hometown in sight of Jerusalem. Matt 24:4/Mk 13:5/Lk 21:8. WebOne of the mothers of the men hanged by the Gibeonites protected the bodies of Saul's sons from birds and wild beasts day and night. The prophet Zechariah asks a question that is forever pertinent to all spiritual considerations and decisions: "For who hath despised the day of small things?" Saul and the heir to the throne, his son, Jonathan, were killed in a battle with the Philistines, and by popular acclamation, David became the King of Israel. He could have done several things differently, perhaps giving the Gibeonites their freedom as a way to repay them. God punished Adam and Eve for their sin. Turn to Exodus 20 and see that right in the Ten Commandments it sounds like it could mean that sin does travel down the family tree. Here are guidelines to help facilitate a meaningful learning experience for everyone. 1. The Gibeonites take the young men and essentially lynch them, leaving the bodies of Sauls sons and grandsons to rot, exposed and humiliated in the presence of God at a local shrine. Perhaps he thought, "Hmm. At the request of the Gibeonites themselves, seven sons of Saul were executed ( II Sam. How does this all connect with Ezekiel chapter 18? They looked to Him and were radiant, and their faces were not ashamed. Seven of Sauls descendants were hanged as a result. So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." Then we have verses 34 through 36. But, he did not. Why is it just now that you are waking up to this? We would like to make a covenant with you.". How far away was Gilgal from Gibeon? There should have been payment for it. He understood it. God isn't very pleased that these bodies have been exposed for six months against His law.". Most, if not all, of those responsible were dead. He asked me, "How does this incident square with what God says in Ezekiel 18:19-20?". In reading the Psalms, on the other hand, we get an idea of just how grateful he was for God's forgiveness and grace, because I believe he was aware of just what a rotten individual he really was. If He said that you are out of here, you are out of here. To all appearances, it seems that they got away with it. We have examples of where that has happened, but he did not do that this time. What we do inherit of their sin is consequences. However there is nothing in the text that indicates he did this. Perhaps if I go and kill all the Gibeonites like Joshua was supposed to do, maybe God will let me back into the chair.". And David was told what Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, the concubine of Saul, had done. All I do know is that they do hold a solid place in world history and one of their offshoots or branches were the Gibeonites. This poor man cried out, and the LORD heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles. King Saul later broke the treaty that Joshua had signed and attacked the Gibeonites. Later still, during the time of King David, a famine occurred in Israel. When David asked the Lord about the famine, God said, It is on account of Saul and his blood-stained house; it is because he put the Gibeonites to death (2 Samuel 21:1). So he did to them, and delivered them out of the hand of the children of Israel, so that they did not kill them. My supposition is that he may have been still questioning God about the way his reign seemed to have crumbled, and all he had was enemies around him. And it very seriously affected his judgment in this matter. Gibeon was situated very close to Gibeah the home town of Sauls family. He says that He visits the iniquity upon them. However, there was not. How many rebellions were there? They had a more bloody and violent systemwhich often led to blood feuds that may not ever end until a whole family or generation was gone. Exodus 21:12-13 "He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death. Jonathan. They engaged in battle, and Israel won, but the people and king Saul said, "Look at all this nice livestock! Oh, fear the LORD, you His saints! This is a bit unusual. He was thinking about a lot of other things. In other words, we want them to be just like us. Please ensure your answer MEETS all our guidelines. How many wars were fought? About two years ago, Barry Watson, our lone member in Namibia, wrote me an email message in which this incident was at the heart of it. God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. It is not the sin of Adam and Eve; it is their own sin. They did not inquire. Yes, my lord, he answered. Based on what he knew, and what was available in God's law, David should have been much more judicious. So, others besides Saul were guilty. The two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul ( v.8 ) He went after a people that God did not want exterminated anymore. The Gibeonites presented themselves to the invading Israelites, not as nearby neighbors, but as distant foreigners who lived in a far-off land. He decided to let the Gibeonites dictate everything. There is not much wiggle room in all this. Then there is another thing. They were probably in middle age, 45-60. Report. He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. There was justice that was going to take place. Joshua 9:14-16 Then the men of Israel took some of their provisions; but they did not ask counsel of the LORD. No silver or gold from that house. We are not finished with that yet, because, who were the Gibeonites? David asked the Gibeonites what punishment would satisfy them and atone for (cover) Sauls sin of murder. He just let matters continue naturally and let it rub in for another six or seven months. by LeRoy Gardenier Davids choice of victims reflects at least the covenant between him and Jonathan, if not also the one between him Therefore, they arrive in the camp of Israel, and say, "Where's your leader? WebThe Gibeonite Deception - Now when all the kings west of the Jordan heard about these thingsthe kings in the hill country, in the western foothills, and along the entire coast of the Mediterranean Sea as far as Lebanon (the kings of the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites) they came together to wage war against Joshua and A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he. Your threshing shall last till the time of vintage, and the vintage shall last till the time of sowing; you shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely. He did not perform any miracle, or any other thing to show that He was happy with the way that things turned out. The chronicler, herewhoever he wasis giving us a big hint that David's attention was elsewhere for three whole years. They are going to cause problems. By this time, Moses had died and was buried. Then we have the explanations of which we just went over. HERALDS OF HOLOCAUST And he gathered an army and attacked the Amalekites, and delivered Israel from the hands of those who plundered them. Most people living in modern, Western culture better identify with flawed heroes, rather than perfect heroes. Should the explanation in Genesis on how God created plants before the sun affect the understanding of creation? Spiritual Strongholds (Part Two): Faithful Trust. Why didnt Abraham bargain with God when it came to Isaac being offered as a burnt offering like he did when it came to Sodom and Gomorrah? This may have only been a couple of months later. Things were going wrong. Those who believe that they can outsmart, outflank or in any way outmaneuver our Enemy through cerebral strategies are doomed to the slavery and destruction heaped upon Saul and the Gibeonites. Their representatives were not up front with the Israeli leaders. It does not matter. If we would go back to Leviticus 26, we will see that David should have known that famine was no small thing in God's arsenal. You are no longer fit to be king." Jew or gentile? Now, if we would go through II Samuel 24, that even though David made a huge mistake in chapter 21, he did it right in chapter 24. Notice that I Kings begins not many chapters after this. Only in one sense, there was a fall of man, but certainly not in the traditional sense. I haven't been keeping up on things. And David sought the face of the Lord. II Samuel 21:10-11 Now Rizpah the daughter of Aiah took sackcloth and spread it for herself on the rock, from the beginning of harvest until the late rains poured on them from heaven. 20, and still another between Saul and David in 1 Samuel 24. David represents usJoe Church Membertrue Christians in a time of spiritual famine, much like what Amos describes in Amos 8:11, with the famine of the word. God tells us that, spiritually, we have to go and wipe them out. Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the LORD your God brings you into the land which you go to possess, and has cast out many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than you, and when the LORD your God delivers them over to you, you shall conquer them and utterly destroy them. Samuel turns away; Saul grabs at him and only catches his robe, and tears it. So, give or take, 40 to 50 years have passed. Matt 24:4/Mk 13:5/Lk 21:8. The time had passed. It does not seem so. There is a very important difference. And they sent them to Joshua at Gilgal. We don't hear much of the Gibeonites again until the reign of King Saul. September 01 2013 Some unfinished business here needs to be taken care of. Saul committed a great crime against Gibeon and the Gibeonites. Ezekiel 18 makes it clear that God punishes people for their own iniquity. How much food did Jesus produce? persecuted and killed the Gibeonites men in a covenant relationship with Israel who served at the tabernacle. He was setting us an example of what we should be doing in a spiritual sense. I also want you to see how warlike Saul was. [And the answer is] Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live. PHARAOH AND HAMAN - I think he was very low. They were appeasing their own god to send rain. DESTRUCTION AND CORRUPTION Sheba's rebellion is in the previous chapter, II Samuel 20. Nevertheless, he names a few of them. On the other hand, when people do well, like Abraham, and they live God's way of life, this allows God the leeway to show mercy unto thousands of generations of people. Perhaps these last few verses suggest that, in burying the bones of Saul and Jonathan, David repented of his sins regarding this whole incident. And the Lord said, "There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibeonites to death. Gibeon is only a few miles mostly north of Jerusalem. Therefore, one of the first things that Joshua and the Israelites do is they allow a big problem to linger in their midst. 1316). It was not just Saul, but other members of his family. Berean Literal Bible Acts 13:21. He is able to judge justly. They got a couple of their men, maybe elders, and got them to appear like they came along distance. Summary:2 Samuel Chapter 212 Samuel 21 Avenging the Gibeonites A. David avenges the Gibeonites. At most it was about ten miles awaynot very far at all. He was not really on the ball like he should have been. It cut us off from God. The Gibeonites achieved their short term goal - survival; but they paid a terribly long term price for it - virtual slavery! Why does the Bible say David spared Mephibosheth then offered him to the Gibeonites to be killed? This is a major reason why the church of God does not subscribe to the traditional doctrine of "The Fall of Man." And then King David inquired of the Lord. I know that is how I always read itas straight historyand I did not think about it very much. "Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? Is there something I'm missing? II Samuel 21:3-6 Therefore David said to the Gibeonites, "What shall I do for you? I Samuel 14:52 Now there was fierce war with the Philistines all the days of Saul. How did the spirit of God move upon the face of the waters in Genesis 1:2? This does not make any sense. Also, the Lord pronounced, It is a result of the massacre by Saul and welcome classification because Saul indeed destroyed the Gibeonites in the Bible. WebThis points to their employment in the sanctuary; and possibly may shed some light on the massacre of the Gibeonites by Saul (2 Samuel 21:1). It does not require at all times that a person guilty of bloodshed die. Think about it. He did not negotiate at all. He was distracted. And the Gibeonites said to him, "We will have no silver or gold from Saul or from his house, nor shall you kill any man in Israel for us." In addition, after this was the rebellion of Sheba, in which there were all kinds of disruptions until Sheba was killed. This could indicate that the sons of Saul were actively implicated in this attempted genocide, although we cannot tell for sure as the details of this awful event are not recorded. I know that he had other family problems because the prophecies said that he would. Clarify This incident of the famine took place rather late in David's life. When did Saul kill these Gibeonites? Because David had been good friends with Jonathan, he at first allowed all of Sauls family to continue to live peaceably in the land. We have to understand that the people of the land represent the things we need to overcomeour human nature and our problems; the world and its pulls to its ways; and Satan and all the ways that he tries to manipulate us. We know that you said not to make a covenant with the people the land. The scriptures are not very definitive as to why. When we read the history of skirmishes and battles between the Gibeonites and Israelites we get a 12 Saul said, Listen now, son of Ahitub.. Instead, David brings back twice as many. WebTranslation Details for 2 Samuel 21:1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. A lot can happen in two years. Israel was totally swindled and bamboozled. It's much too heavy any more!" See? They had remembered it for 40 or 50 years. Perhaps trickery will be better than war for us.". You can read about them for yourself in the Book of Joshua, chapters nine and ten. Therefore, this curse goes down until the gene pool is able to kick it outthree or four generations. He has mercy, and holds the curses to just a few generations, but He allows the results of doing righteousness to last forever. And how do I know this? As we get to about verse 32 in Hebrews 11, Paul says that he does not have time to get to all the other heroes of faith that the Bible gives us. Our God has given us a law that says such and such, so this is what we are willing to do for you.". The choice by Adam and Eve in the garden was a sin, and they paid for it through death. With a careful reading and a bit of thought, you will begin to raise some questions. We see in this little vignette that innocent people die; grief lingers forever; idolatry is committed; and the curse of famine continues; another harvest fails; and the land remains defiled; everything stinks of death. King David came at it from a position of weakness, not of one who knew God's law and could answer these people from spiritual strength. There are references to the Lord, but they are not references in a spiritual sense. and for his bloody house. He says to watchbe aware, be awake, be vigilant; know what your spiritual state is. Today, I want to visit one of King David's lesser-known black marks, and draw some lessons from it at the end. That generation had begun to pass. The soul who sins shall die. They didn't present themselves in a truthful light saying that they were neighbors who respected Israel's strength and godly advantage and were suing for peace. It was common knowledge. But so did David. ", So David went out and said, "There are some things that have needed to be done. If what happened against Gibeon occurred during Saul's reign, even if it was in the latter half, it would mean it was at least (if we are in the last decade of King David's reign) that the massacre of Gibeonites occurred 40 or 50 years earlier. It says a bit later that somebody told him what that woman was doing out there protecting the bodies of the slain men of Saul's house for the past six months and it was as though he said, "Oh really? If the Gibeonites brought guile and deceit into the land; it was Saul who set the example for deep and devastating delusion. The Gibeonites have the dubious distinction of having duped Joshua and the elders of Israel. God is not bloodthirsty, but He had told them what to do. David asked. Go coach! Wherever he turned, he harassed them. When asked about the time of the end; when questioned about the signs that would precede His Second Coming, our blessed Lord instinctively cautioned: "Take heed that no man deceive you." We have a very simple biblical principle here: God is just. It is not pretty when we allow the people of the land to dictate to us. There are so many things I have got to do.". VERSE 2. Israel and Judah," who may have fretted at the inconvenience of having the Gibeonites among them. God spared them as a people, but His nation condemned them to endless servitude. There was a covenant with those people that not only Joshua and the people honored, but also God Himself honored as well. Share The latter believed that Saul's desire was to destroy them utterly. There is nothing to give you any indication that God was involved in anything except the faminetrying to teach David a lesson. WebThe Lord answered, Saul and his family of murderers are the reason for this shortage, because he killed the Gibeonites. 2 Samuel 21:1 American Standard Version (ASV) 1 And there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David sought the face of Jehovah. Vote Up Some interesting similarities to New Testament times occur to me: The fact that David made a covenant with Jonathan regarding Jonathans house (1 Sam 20:14-16), would take precedence over all other reasons not to give up Mephibosheth, I would suppose. So, it is very likely that these men were murdered both as retribution and as sacrifices to some pagan god to spite the God of the Bible, and therefore, Israel. The second is at the end of verse 2, that "Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for Israel and Judah." They were the five sons of Merab, Saul's daughter. the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Instead of warfare and bloodshed, their weapons were guile and deceit. There is a great deal more than what meets the eye. God did not necessarily overlook all their sins, but He certainly forgave them. A brief, but important, reference to the Gibeonites can also be found in 2 Samuel 21:1-14. II Samuel 21:1-14 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. The Bible does not provide us the details of this killing. So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them. & "Take heed that you be not deceived." Deuteronomy 19:7-10 Therefore I command you, saying, 'You shall separate three cities for yourself.' They quailed at what they heard that Joshua and Israel had done at Jericho and Ai. Something is wrong, David. The Gibeonites were not Israelites, but the remnant of the Amorites, which Saul pursued from within Israel. So they fell, all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest. When He visits the iniquity upon successive generations, He is saying is that the results and curses that come automatically often go down a handful of generations. It certainly happened because it says there in verses 1 and 2 that Saul killed a lot of Gibeonites at some point in his reign. We are starting to get some of the atmosphere around this event now. He keeps his word even to his own disadvantage and does not change it [for his own benefit] (Psalm 15:1, 4; AMP). Instead, the Gibeonites demanded the execution of seven of Saul's sons. They handed their enemies hard, stale, moldy bread and told them it had been freshly baked when they left home. Then David went and took the bones of Saul, and the bones of Jonathan his son, from the men of Jabesh Gilead who had stolen them from the street of Beth Shan, where the Philistines had hung them up, after the Philistines had struck down Saul in Gilboa. Who are the twenty four elders that John foresaw? In fact, it can be read as if David approached it as only a minor administrative matter. Then they answered the king, "As for the man who consumed us and plotted against us, that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the territories of Israel, "let seven men of his descendants be delivered to us, and we will hang them before the LORD in Gibeah of Saul, whom the LORD chose." However, there was a difference between Israel's version and the Gentiles' principle of vengeance or retribution. However, if he did not lie in wait, but God delivered him into his hand, then I will appoint for you a place where he may flee.". The Bible implicitly hints at something which caused a feud which was settled only by the blood of Sauls descendants. 1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. 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